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Deviousness `anmari has been spreading her infectious positivity throughout our community for over 6 years. Throughout this time Ana has been at the core of all things devious, passionately developing an eclectic gallery, helping organise devmeets, participating in chat events and also recently completed dedicating her time as a Community Volunteer. We are absolutely delighted to bestow the Deviousness Award for May 2013 to `anmari, congratulations! Read More
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In this case, I credited Kyra and will continue to because even if you first developed the full eyes, I used her squashed version (where the pupils touch the eye outline) on this emote and that's what I'm crediting
The problem is they do know I exist. they have both commented on my work in the past. Infact ~Scorpion81 drew a lot of influence from me among other emoticonsts and it's reflected in his work which is fine I guess. They say imitation is the best form of flattery. I just wish he credited me when he pixeled things the same way I did. I'm not saying =Kyramy took the eyes directly from me, I think she saw them in ~Scorpion81's work and then thought she developed them her self.
There's quite a few emoticonists using those eyes now and they're all connected to scorp in some way whether they've seen his work or they were part of his group #EmoteZ (see the avatar). also in a few cases the eyes aren't consistent with the emoticonists skill level.
I'm probably coming across as an asshole and that's not my intent. I'm not attacking you, in fact I very much respect you and the work you do for this community but if I cant convince you then what's the point. every one will think that it's =Kyramy's eye style and that's a bit upsetting. After all i created something that people seem to like and someone else is getting the credit. I hope you'll understand...
As for Kyra, I think it is just some sort of coincidence that the same eye style has been developed twice. I was present in a skype call when she made the sad version shown here and saw the 10 or so varieties she came up with just by moving the eyes around and squishing them in different ways. So I don't believe any copying was involved. If I also remember correctly the same sort of process happened when she came up with the eye style in the first place, so I'm pretty sure again the main style was developed independently and not copied from you via Scorp.
As for why many people claim it is Kyra's style, I think part of that is just down to who actively (and consistently) uses the style in pieces such that the style becomes credited to them. I've know you for a couple of years longer than I've known Kyra and I can honestly say that I didn't recognise the style, and I am one of these people who can often pick out artists based on their emote shading alone. I think part of this is down to the fact you've been less active and part of it due to the fact that you change between several different styles so this hasn't become a defining feature of your style.
I guess what I can say is if anyone asks me who developed this style first I can now say you. I won't argue you on that fact, and you do have the deviations to back up your side. However when it comes to crediting, I'm always going to pick the version which was my inspiration for the piece. Since I took influence from Kyra's expression sheet, that is what I will reference. And I don't feel she is doing anything wrong by not referencing you as the original creator as she took no influence from your work when she first started using the style.
I can understand the irritation of seeing something you developed being credited solely to someone else. But I'm not really sure what can be done when the person who has been credited with the development technically hasn't done anything wrong and you are been missed out simply because you aren't as well known.
Though I see your points, I still don't believe Kyramy's eye style is completely her own creation. I think it's simply too close to home to be put down to coincidence. after all the amount of variation in pixel art even when working in small areas is insane. there are literally millions of different ways you can pixel eyes on a head the size of a DA emoticon. If you see something you like (for example my eye style on scorp's emotes) then you can not unsee it and whether you realise it or not, it has influence on you. It's like when you hear a catchy tune, it gets stuck in the back of your mind and stays there. later you might whistle it or play it on an instrument when you're just noodling and maybe think you created it. You know what I mean?, the image stays but not the memory of it's origin. any way that's why I won't believe that she developed the eyes herself... sorry.
You are right about me changing between styles though. that style was going to be a defining feature of my EMOTE pack. I've got a folder full of emotes all in that style but I lost the motivation to finish the pack a while ago because the uniqueness is now gone. I don't see the point in ever finishing them now.
Any way although I disagree with you about Kyramy, I can see why you still credit her. I should just let this go. Some people will think the eyes are hers and you're right, there's not much I can do about that. I guess I could just make a tutorial. if people are going to use them I might as well make it easy. any way I'm ranting. sorry for posting walls of text on you're page. I don't think it's achieved anything. I'll leave you alone now.